http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/ Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:52:48 +0000 MyBB http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:06:21 +0000 nikdevid http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9 I am new to this forum, so thought to be first introduce myself, I am William from Kenya
and interested in Internet Surfing, Forum Posting and Shopping.I thought forum posting is
one of the best way to enhance knowledge as well grab new things, that is the reason me
joined this forum.So tell me about interesting topics and discussions happening on this
forum I wanted to check it out.]]> I am new to this forum, so thought to be first introduce myself, I am William from Kenya
and interested in Internet Surfing, Forum Posting and Shopping.I thought forum posting is
one of the best way to enhance knowledge as well grab new things, that is the reason me
joined this forum.So tell me about interesting topics and discussions happening on this
forum I wanted to check it out.]]> http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:07:57 +0000 sculpturepainter http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8 http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=7 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:00:23 +0000 lookinforfeet http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=7 http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:08:07 +0000 admin http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6 I finally had opportunity to meet one of the would-be Dominas who contacted me. We met at a neutral venu, a coffee shop, around lunchtime for enlightening get-acquainted conversation. This was after a few back and forth's in email, which is to be expected. She greatly exceeded my expectations, although from her email I could already tell she has a great attitude.

Where will it go from here? I can't say yet, but it appears that we're going to play in the near future.

Now this could be you, guys, and it will be you... just as this club gets up to speed, which can only happen with your support. That means if you read this you join the Forum and post an introduction in the appropriate thread, and post whatever else is on your mind as well. Start new threads: live dangerously LOL.

When the "tipping point" is reached, this will be a place where women who are looking for submissives, slaves, devotees, and/or bois can come to learn of your existence. And it's all for "free." Yeah, I put that word in quotation marks because you'll need to put a little time and imagination into it before you get something out of it. But what are you getting otherwise? Very little, I'll wager. And I'm probably right. After all, I am...]]> I finally had opportunity to meet one of the would-be Dominas who contacted me. We met at a neutral venu, a coffee shop, around lunchtime for enlightening get-acquainted conversation. This was after a few back and forth's in email, which is to be expected. She greatly exceeded my expectations, although from her email I could already tell she has a great attitude.

Where will it go from here? I can't say yet, but it appears that we're going to play in the near future.

Now this could be you, guys, and it will be you... just as this club gets up to speed, which can only happen with your support. That means if you read this you join the Forum and post an introduction in the appropriate thread, and post whatever else is on your mind as well. Start new threads: live dangerously LOL.

When the "tipping point" is reached, this will be a place where women who are looking for submissives, slaves, devotees, and/or bois can come to learn of your existence. And it's all for "free." Yeah, I put that word in quotation marks because you'll need to put a little time and imagination into it before you get something out of it. But what are you getting otherwise? Very little, I'll wager. And I'm probably right. After all, I am...]]> http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:32:11 +0000 admin http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5
Four people have so far confirmed their desire to attend! See you all there.]]>
Four people have so far confirmed their desire to attend! See you all there.]]> http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:45:00 +0000 admin http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4
Imagine that you are a male with very kinky sexual fantasies, and you have not attempted to deny or ignore these desires.

Your fantasies involve beautiful and powerful Dominant women who use you for their pleasure and amusement, and who see to it that you are always in a state of frustrated unfulfilled arousal, which they rarely totally satisfy and even when they do, they never give you quite all of what you desire and need. So you are forever on your knees to them, willing to serve as slave or pet.

Or perhaps it's not so complex with you. There are just some kinky activities or fetishes you need to experience in order to achieve optimum sexual satisfaction...

But there are not very many women willing to indulge you.

You have "plain vanilla" relationships with women who will never be willing to even hear about the sexy, forbidden things you really need.

Or maybe you don't deal with vanilla women at all.

There are a few (very few) women available who enjoy the play you seek, but they are mostly in relationships with other men.

There are professional female dominants, Pro Dommes, who are willing to grant some of what you desire, but they seem to want more money than you have to spend and they are in such demand that they hardly even answer their phone, or return phone calls of email. Besides, the Pro Dommes in your parts are on such an exalted level that most are not really interested in playing to your needs in order to draw you deeper and deeper into their web.

Even the best Pro-Dommes seem to leave much to be desired and of course, they ARE Dominant, so it's expected that they will do what they please. You only wish that they were willing to please you a little bit more.

So one bright day, you decide that since the Internet has spread the knowledge of BDSM and Female Domination far and wide, there must be many young women who would like to become Dommes (either professionally or for their significant others).

So you attempt to contact them and hook them up with more advanced Dominants or to organize them, etc. But for some reason, it's not as easy as it seemed when you woke up with the idea at three in the morning :-D

However, eventually you have a base of young novices and semi-skilled would-be dominants who have contacted you over a four month period.

You are not quite sure exactly how to proceed. You have exchaned email with some of them, spoken by phone to others, and bought lunch for a couple.

You are not in a position to totally train any one of them, because she needs to be paid for her time and while the rate won't be quite as high as your local Pro-Domme, "Mistress Ice Queen," training even one novice will take many hours, and of course, she will need to experience a wide variety of males so she develops her skills and intuitive resources.

You also have the ability to make web sites, take great photos, create graphic designs, and you can write well enough to put your ideas on a page.

What do you do?

Here's what I did.

I ran some ads, collected the photos and data for a number of promising young female novices.

Then I tried to find an already practicing woman to oversee the development of several fledgling Dommes.

It didn't work out for several reasons and I'll not need to go into that here.

Suffice it to say that while Women do know what needs to be done in this situation, MEN are the ones who know how to Get Things Done.

For example (true story), in the old Esseminian Way news letter (paper and snail mail), a woman told of wanting to chain up her man so he could never get free. She eagerly described how she was going to join the chain with a machine bolt with washers and a nut. She described how she would oh-so-carefully file all the corners off the nut, so a wrench would slip and the nut could never be removed. (!)

Ahem! This woman had never been told about vice grip pliers! She also didn't know the CORRECT way to accomplsh her goal. Any man would know that you simply spin the nut down far enough so a bit of the threaded bolt shaft protrudes; and then you hammer ("peen") that exposed end of the bolt shaft down so the nut will never travel back up the ruined, mushroomed threads. Bwa ha ha ha ha!

OK. So the next thing I did, I bought the old ClevelandErotica.com web site. I revamped the design, and I added this forum. Then I ran the ads you probably clicked on to get here.

There you have it, guys. I'm depending on you to help me figure out how to make sure that any young woman with Dominant tendencies here in town will be able to learn how things are done and be able to make her living practicing the sort of kinky behaviors we all hold so dear!]]>
Imagine that you are a male with very kinky sexual fantasies, and you have not attempted to deny or ignore these desires.

Your fantasies involve beautiful and powerful Dominant women who use you for their pleasure and amusement, and who see to it that you are always in a state of frustrated unfulfilled arousal, which they rarely totally satisfy and even when they do, they never give you quite all of what you desire and need. So you are forever on your knees to them, willing to serve as slave or pet.

Or perhaps it's not so complex with you. There are just some kinky activities or fetishes you need to experience in order to achieve optimum sexual satisfaction...

But there are not very many women willing to indulge you.

You have "plain vanilla" relationships with women who will never be willing to even hear about the sexy, forbidden things you really need.

Or maybe you don't deal with vanilla women at all.

There are a few (very few) women available who enjoy the play you seek, but they are mostly in relationships with other men.

There are professional female dominants, Pro Dommes, who are willing to grant some of what you desire, but they seem to want more money than you have to spend and they are in such demand that they hardly even answer their phone, or return phone calls of email. Besides, the Pro Dommes in your parts are on such an exalted level that most are not really interested in playing to your needs in order to draw you deeper and deeper into their web.

Even the best Pro-Dommes seem to leave much to be desired and of course, they ARE Dominant, so it's expected that they will do what they please. You only wish that they were willing to please you a little bit more.

So one bright day, you decide that since the Internet has spread the knowledge of BDSM and Female Domination far and wide, there must be many young women who would like to become Dommes (either professionally or for their significant others).

So you attempt to contact them and hook them up with more advanced Dominants or to organize them, etc. But for some reason, it's not as easy as it seemed when you woke up with the idea at three in the morning :-D

However, eventually you have a base of young novices and semi-skilled would-be dominants who have contacted you over a four month period.

You are not quite sure exactly how to proceed. You have exchaned email with some of them, spoken by phone to others, and bought lunch for a couple.

You are not in a position to totally train any one of them, because she needs to be paid for her time and while the rate won't be quite as high as your local Pro-Domme, "Mistress Ice Queen," training even one novice will take many hours, and of course, she will need to experience a wide variety of males so she develops her skills and intuitive resources.

You also have the ability to make web sites, take great photos, create graphic designs, and you can write well enough to put your ideas on a page.

What do you do?

Here's what I did.

I ran some ads, collected the photos and data for a number of promising young female novices.

Then I tried to find an already practicing woman to oversee the development of several fledgling Dommes.

It didn't work out for several reasons and I'll not need to go into that here.

Suffice it to say that while Women do know what needs to be done in this situation, MEN are the ones who know how to Get Things Done.

For example (true story), in the old Esseminian Way news letter (paper and snail mail), a woman told of wanting to chain up her man so he could never get free. She eagerly described how she was going to join the chain with a machine bolt with washers and a nut. She described how she would oh-so-carefully file all the corners off the nut, so a wrench would slip and the nut could never be removed. (!)

Ahem! This woman had never been told about vice grip pliers! She also didn't know the CORRECT way to accomplsh her goal. Any man would know that you simply spin the nut down far enough so a bit of the threaded bolt shaft protrudes; and then you hammer ("peen") that exposed end of the bolt shaft down so the nut will never travel back up the ruined, mushroomed threads. Bwa ha ha ha ha!

OK. So the next thing I did, I bought the old ClevelandErotica.com web site. I revamped the design, and I added this forum. Then I ran the ads you probably clicked on to get here.

There you have it, guys. I'm depending on you to help me figure out how to make sure that any young woman with Dominant tendencies here in town will be able to learn how things are done and be able to make her living practicing the sort of kinky behaviors we all hold so dear!]]> http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:44:08 +0000 admin http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3
The Short Version:

1. Given that men with our interests in kink, fetishes, and bdsm rarely get all the action we crave...
2. Given the lack of women willing to indulge us in our fantasies...
3. Given that existing Dominas tend to be quirky and self-centered...
4. Given that many existing Dominas tend to have all the clients they could hope to care for and...
5. Given that existing Dominas often don't even answer their phones or return email...
6. Given that existing Dominas charge exorbitant rates...
7. Given that many inexperienced young women are interested in learning how to Domme -- but existing Dominas are generally unwilling to train them...
8. Given that many novice women that are interested in learning to Dominate men already have a dominant attitude, but also possess the humility to understand that they don't know or have it all and are willing to learn...
9. Given that much of what a Domme does to her subjects does not take advanced training, but only a bit of knowledge and foresight...
10. Given that an intelligent, intuitive novice woman, could easily learn to "read" and Dominate males just as well or better than existing Dommes, in at least eighty percent (80%) of all situations and scenarios...
11. Given that a suitable novice woman who is eager and willing to learn could receive 80 percent (80%) of the necessary training from one or more males who are honest, fair, and concerned to see that she learns what she needs to know...
12. For these and for other similar and related Reasons...
13. We males, an open (though private) "First Amendment-type" association of men known as "The Cleveland Erotic Knights" intend to recruit and train many attractive, intelligent, outgoing, and talented young women to minister to our needs as Femdommes, Mistresses, Dominatrixes, Fetish Diva's, Erotic Nurses, and sometimes (you never know) as plain old girl friends!
14. Some of us have already tested the waters in this by running adverts for more than four months... and almost every week one or more likely female prospects have answered our call.
15. We now have a list of at least twenty (20) women who have requested training for a position of a Dominant women, overseeing males. Most of these women sent photos and enough info about themselves to greatly interest us.
16. Some of the women on our list may have more potential than others, but for "the basics" (and then some), most of the women on the list will certainly prove capable.
17. We will continue running our ads (maybe forever).
18. Now it is time to act!
19. These women on the list we will contact first...
20. We want to offer them a real education and the best chance to learn, to reach their potential power, knowledge, and ability.
21. That's why you are here!
22. If you are willing, you will take part in training the suitable women who have contacted us. They will practice on you (and me), beginning from the most basic interrogation and scene set-up... progressing to more advanced and difficult aspects of the Scene.
23. For you, there will not be any money involved to join our Knighthood, providing you treat all persons, male and female, with honesty and Respect. As we are all different, your input is valuable and will be required
24. The only money you will spend will be between you and the woman in question. This must be a fair sum for what is involved: men must not be gouged and women must not be given a meagerly pittance because they are not totally "in the know."
25. Regarding the LAW. We do not advocate breaking any law, nor will we tolerate it. Thus, a rather fine line must be walked at some points because until a woman and man are known to one another and are on friendly terms, there are certain things that must not occur, and other things must occur only in a certain manner, due to constraints within our rather repressive system of law. Nobody should ever be able to accuse anybody involved in our project of "prostitution," and if such charges are ever made against anybody, they must be totally baseless and unable to obtain a conviction. Let common sense prevail!
26. The issues mentined above, payment and the law, are two of the major things we need to agree upon and develop protocols for.
27. If you, the male, come to this table, you must be willing to offer something of value to the program and the group. As you will be offering the woman (your Mistress-in-training) financial support, you must offer the rest of us something equally valuable:
    *Your time
    *Your enthusiasm, honesty, and respect
    *Your insights into the Scene as it applies to you and how that might be used to train the young women in the program.
28. If you desire and agree to take part in our activities, you must at a bare minimum join our online Forum, use an Avatar image, and contribute to the discussion and planning. Those who continuously make "one word" or irrelevant one-line posts will eventually be banned.
29. You must not use your real name. You should not use your main email (get a secondary Yahoo, Gmail, etc.), and you must not share any "real" information about yourself or about any other member who may be known to you here.
30. We will be having some meet-ups or real-time meetings. Those will be attended at your discression, and ours.
31. Putting a group like this together in a way that is fair and agreeable to everybody is not always easy, so you will please bear with us and offer suggestions if you know or think of ways to better accomplish our goals.
32. Our overall goal is to form a somewhat co-operative pool of honest, trustworty, well-behaved and helpful males who serve and support an ever-increasing body of young female Dominants, seeing to it that every one of them who deserves it is able to advance herself to the position of a Queen, blessed with knowledge, skill, and ability to give the male what he desires and receive from him what she needs in order to spend a great deal of her time doing this.
33. Eventually we will have one and probably multiple safe play places that are totally under our control. For now we have several places we may use for hire. When you know a woman properly, you may, of course, use your own place, or hers.
34. Eventually -- and this will depend greatly upon you -- the young women we train and support will have the ability to train their own novices and set up their own organizations and groups. This is to be desired. When that time arrives, we need to assure that we, as a group of males, have a good reputation, so that those of us so-willing may continue to recruit and train new young Dominants.
35. Our ultimate desire is that every male associated with us is able to receive the sort of treatment and time he needs from a woman he perceives as his Personal Goddess... and we also desire that every such woman become skillful in this and be in demand enough so that she will receive all the support she needs (financial and otherwise) and lead the kind of life she desires.
36. When we are successful here in town, this idea can easily be spread to other areas in North America and the world.
37. But we don't yet have all the...err..."Kinks" worked out.
38. We need to develop the best means and methods to work with young, novice, Female Dominants who contact us. We need assure that the women are able to meet a male subject, take control, assess his needs, and get him to follow her directives in a way that also appeals to him to the degree that he becomes her willing servant, slave, and Knight!
    

Are you with us? If so, please Introduce yourself and contribute to the discussions. Don't be afraid to start your own Threads on the message board.]]>
The Short Version:

1. Given that men with our interests in kink, fetishes, and bdsm rarely get all the action we crave...
2. Given the lack of women willing to indulge us in our fantasies...
3. Given that existing Dominas tend to be quirky and self-centered...
4. Given that many existing Dominas tend to have all the clients they could hope to care for and...
5. Given that existing Dominas often don't even answer their phones or return email...
6. Given that existing Dominas charge exorbitant rates...
7. Given that many inexperienced young women are interested in learning how to Domme -- but existing Dominas are generally unwilling to train them...
8. Given that many novice women that are interested in learning to Dominate men already have a dominant attitude, but also possess the humility to understand that they don't know or have it all and are willing to learn...
9. Given that much of what a Domme does to her subjects does not take advanced training, but only a bit of knowledge and foresight...
10. Given that an intelligent, intuitive novice woman, could easily learn to "read" and Dominate males just as well or better than existing Dommes, in at least eighty percent (80%) of all situations and scenarios...
11. Given that a suitable novice woman who is eager and willing to learn could receive 80 percent (80%) of the necessary training from one or more males who are honest, fair, and concerned to see that she learns what she needs to know...
12. For these and for other similar and related Reasons...
13. We males, an open (though private) "First Amendment-type" association of men known as "The Cleveland Erotic Knights" intend to recruit and train many attractive, intelligent, outgoing, and talented young women to minister to our needs as Femdommes, Mistresses, Dominatrixes, Fetish Diva's, Erotic Nurses, and sometimes (you never know) as plain old girl friends!
14. Some of us have already tested the waters in this by running adverts for more than four months... and almost every week one or more likely female prospects have answered our call.
15. We now have a list of at least twenty (20) women who have requested training for a position of a Dominant women, overseeing males. Most of these women sent photos and enough info about themselves to greatly interest us.
16. Some of the women on our list may have more potential than others, but for "the basics" (and then some), most of the women on the list will certainly prove capable.
17. We will continue running our ads (maybe forever).
18. Now it is time to act!
19. These women on the list we will contact first...
20. We want to offer them a real education and the best chance to learn, to reach their potential power, knowledge, and ability.
21. That's why you are here!
22. If you are willing, you will take part in training the suitable women who have contacted us. They will practice on you (and me), beginning from the most basic interrogation and scene set-up... progressing to more advanced and difficult aspects of the Scene.
23. For you, there will not be any money involved to join our Knighthood, providing you treat all persons, male and female, with honesty and Respect. As we are all different, your input is valuable and will be required
24. The only money you will spend will be between you and the woman in question. This must be a fair sum for what is involved: men must not be gouged and women must not be given a meagerly pittance because they are not totally "in the know."
25. Regarding the LAW. We do not advocate breaking any law, nor will we tolerate it. Thus, a rather fine line must be walked at some points because until a woman and man are known to one another and are on friendly terms, there are certain things that must not occur, and other things must occur only in a certain manner, due to constraints within our rather repressive system of law. Nobody should ever be able to accuse anybody involved in our project of "prostitution," and if such charges are ever made against anybody, they must be totally baseless and unable to obtain a conviction. Let common sense prevail!
26. The issues mentined above, payment and the law, are two of the major things we need to agree upon and develop protocols for.
27. If you, the male, come to this table, you must be willing to offer something of value to the program and the group. As you will be offering the woman (your Mistress-in-training) financial support, you must offer the rest of us something equally valuable:
    *Your time
    *Your enthusiasm, honesty, and respect
    *Your insights into the Scene as it applies to you and how that might be used to train the young women in the program.
28. If you desire and agree to take part in our activities, you must at a bare minimum join our online Forum, use an Avatar image, and contribute to the discussion and planning. Those who continuously make "one word" or irrelevant one-line posts will eventually be banned.
29. You must not use your real name. You should not use your main email (get a secondary Yahoo, Gmail, etc.), and you must not share any "real" information about yourself or about any other member who may be known to you here.
30. We will be having some meet-ups or real-time meetings. Those will be attended at your discression, and ours.
31. Putting a group like this together in a way that is fair and agreeable to everybody is not always easy, so you will please bear with us and offer suggestions if you know or think of ways to better accomplish our goals.
32. Our overall goal is to form a somewhat co-operative pool of honest, trustworty, well-behaved and helpful males who serve and support an ever-increasing body of young female Dominants, seeing to it that every one of them who deserves it is able to advance herself to the position of a Queen, blessed with knowledge, skill, and ability to give the male what he desires and receive from him what she needs in order to spend a great deal of her time doing this.
33. Eventually we will have one and probably multiple safe play places that are totally under our control. For now we have several places we may use for hire. When you know a woman properly, you may, of course, use your own place, or hers.
34. Eventually -- and this will depend greatly upon you -- the young women we train and support will have the ability to train their own novices and set up their own organizations and groups. This is to be desired. When that time arrives, we need to assure that we, as a group of males, have a good reputation, so that those of us so-willing may continue to recruit and train new young Dominants.
35. Our ultimate desire is that every male associated with us is able to receive the sort of treatment and time he needs from a woman he perceives as his Personal Goddess... and we also desire that every such woman become skillful in this and be in demand enough so that she will receive all the support she needs (financial and otherwise) and lead the kind of life she desires.
36. When we are successful here in town, this idea can easily be spread to other areas in North America and the world.
37. But we don't yet have all the...err..."Kinks" worked out.
38. We need to develop the best means and methods to work with young, novice, Female Dominants who contact us. We need assure that the women are able to meet a male subject, take control, assess his needs, and get him to follow her directives in a way that also appeals to him to the degree that he becomes her willing servant, slave, and Knight!
    

Are you with us? If so, please Introduce yourself and contribute to the discussions. Don't be afraid to start your own Threads on the message board.]]> http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:48:37 +0000 admin http://clevelanderotica.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2 Please read my introduction and make yours below, as a Reply.

Greetings one and all.

You can call me Alec MacPeel.

I'm here to admin our forum and help organize our program.

I'm fairly knowledgeable about MyBB, which we are running here. However, if there's something I don't know, or if I foul up in some way, I hope you'll bear with me.

Otherwise, I'm fifty-something, experienced in the graphic arts, photography, creating websites -- including Wordpress Blogs and static pages. And I'm pretty good at getting things done (GTD).

I'm also a "Switch" and "Fetishist," but why live to label things, eh? Especially ourselves!

In closing, I promise you that if we all work together, we can have the kind of satisfying and exciting lives we desire. So y'all give me a hand putting it together, OK? Thanks for listening.]]> Please read my introduction and make yours below, as a Reply.

Greetings one and all.

You can call me Alec MacPeel.

I'm here to admin our forum and help organize our program.

I'm fairly knowledgeable about MyBB, which we are running here. However, if there's something I don't know, or if I foul up in some way, I hope you'll bear with me.

Otherwise, I'm fifty-something, experienced in the graphic arts, photography, creating websites -- including Wordpress Blogs and static pages. And I'm pretty good at getting things done (GTD).

I'm also a "Switch" and "Fetishist," but why live to label things, eh? Especially ourselves!

In closing, I promise you that if we all work together, we can have the kind of satisfying and exciting lives we desire. So y'all give me a hand putting it together, OK? Thanks for listening.]]>